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Interview with Susan
Stone
Assistant Professor, School of Social Welfare, UC Berkeley
Susan was interviewed on June
14, 2002 by Claudia Waters
Susan,
you are new to UC Berkeley and the School of Social Welfare.
Can you tell me a little about your background? Where did
you get your doctorate? What motivated you to go into social
work?
I completed my entire training (BA, MA and Ph.D.) at the University
of Chicago. I am also a family therapist by training, completing
pre- and post-masters training programs at the Institute for
Juvenile Research and the Chicago Center for Family Health,
respectively.
I always have had a strong interest in human
behavior and development and the ways in which core socio-cultural
institutions (like schools) impact and
are impacted by individual behavior.
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The question was how to pursue this interest.
The summer after I graduated from college, I took a job as a caseworker
at a family support agency serving child-welfare involved families.
What can I say? The short version of the story is that I fell in
love with direct practice and decided to pursue a career in social
work. Social welfare offers a very applied perspective on how to
look at these individual-contextual interactions.
What new perspective can you bring to the School of Social Welfare?
I hope I can make the case for why the fields of education and social
welfare, both academically and professionally, should attempt more
cross-fertilization. There are wonderful educational resilience
theorists, for example, who, in my opinion, could provide the social
work field with terrific strength-based frameworks. On the other
side, I think there is still unlimited potential for social work
to collaborate with educators at multiple levels to best serve the
academic and psycho-social needs of children.
What are your current research interests? Are you collaborating
with anyone here at Berkeley?
I have four main interests: the transition to high school. student
response to high stakes testing policies, parent involvement in
schooling, and the structure and organization of social service
provision in schools.
I am currently collaborating with Richard Scheffler, Rick Mayes
and Farasat Bokhari in the School of Public Health on a study investigating
the economics of psychostimulants (e.g., drugs typically prescribed
for Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder).

How do you try to bridge your research interests with social work
practice?
Virtually all of my research interests emerged out of direct experience
with families and schools. I, therefore, conduct and design research
with quite practical applications. For instance, my interest in
parent-school interaction emerged from a conversation with a mother
I saw in family therapy. She told me a very poignant story of how
school staff labeled her son as a gang member (he wasn't) and how
these false perceptions eroded his attachment to school. She felt
"pushed away" and betrayed by school personnel. My research
elucidates how the structure of high schools contribute to these
negative and counterproductive interactions.
Over the past 15 years social work research has made more use of
quantitative tools. How do you make use of these tools in your research.
I was fortunate to have been able to learn from two great statistical
innovators: Ben Wright (perhaps the leading expert in Rasch analysis)
and Tony Bryk (one of the developers of hierarchical linear models
(HLM)). Students, their families, and teachers, are "nested"
in schools. This means, for example, that students attending the
same school share common characteristics. This technique allows
researchers to capitalize on and account for this shared variation.
For instance, I use this technique to look at the ways in which
school characteristics shape parents' involvement in schooling.
Quantitative researchers are often accused of ignoring the individual
in their research. How do you respond to this? How does one integrate
quantitative and qualitative methods?
I think this accusation reflects a very outdated way of thinking
and a misunderstanding of what "quantitative" research
means. "Quantitative" and "qualitative" refer
to different data collection processes and techniques. I personally
mix these data collection methods in my own work, depending on the
nature of the research question I am trying to address.
What is the most challenging aspect of teaching in the School of
Social Welfare? What is the most gratifying?
As a new faculty member at the school, I can say that the students
I teach are phenomenal. Berkeley is unique in that students complete
three semesters of research training in this program. It is an absolutely
wonderful aspect of this program. This year I taught the Research
Methods sequence for second year students. I must say that the students
really blew me away with the projects they produced. I think some
social work students sometimes enter the program with the belief
that they (1) are completely uninterested in research or (2) lack
the skills to conduct research. I try to demonstrate that we all
have a little bit of researcher embedded within us and try to draw
that out. I think many, if not most, students are pleased to find
that they actually enjoy research and realize how central it is
in our profession.
Information on Professor Stone can be found at
the following link:
http://socialwelfare.berkeley.edu/faculty/stone.htm
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